diff --git a/kitty/launch.py b/kitty/launch.py
index 0837b6d4f..ca46be163 100644
--- a/kitty/launch.py
+++ b/kitty/launch.py
@@ -562,6 +562,9 @@ class CloneCmd:
             if k == 'pid':
                 self.pid = int(v)
                 continue
+            if k == 'envfmt':
+                self.envfmt = v
+                continue
             v = base64.standard_b64decode(v).decode('utf-8', 'replace')
             if k == 'a':
                 self.args.append(v)
@@ -589,6 +592,8 @@ def clone_and_launch(msg: str, window: Window) -> None:
         c.opts.cwd = c.cwd
     c.opts.copy_colors = True
     c.opts.copy_env = False
+    c.opts.env = list(c.opts.env) + ['KITTY_IS_CLONE_LAUNCH=1']
+    cmdline = c.cmdline
     if c.pid > -1:
         try:
             cmdline = cmdline_of_process(c.pid)
diff --git a/shell-integration/bash/kitty.bash b/shell-integration/bash/kitty.bash
index 3694b70fe..6e86726ed 100644
--- a/shell-integration/bash/kitty.bash
+++ b/shell-integration/bash/kitty.bash
@@ -6,6 +6,14 @@ if [[ -z "$KITTY_SHELL_INTEGRATION" ]]; then builtin return; fi
 _ksi_inject() {
     # Load the normal bash startup files
     if [[ -n "$KITTY_BASH_INJECT" ]]; then
+        if [ -n "$KITTY_IS_CLONE_LAUNCH" ]; then
+            # store some vars before the rc files have a chance to change them
+            builtin declare -Ag _ksi_pre_rc
+            _ksi_pre_rc=(
+                [path]="$PATH" [conda_default_env]="$CONDA_DEFAULT_ENV" [python_venv]="$VIRTUAL_ENV" [is_clone_launch]="$KITTY_IS_CLONE_LAUNCH"
+            )
+        fi
+
         builtin local kitty_bash_inject="$KITTY_BASH_INJECT"
         builtin local ksi_val="$KITTY_SHELL_INTEGRATION"
         builtin unset KITTY_SHELL_INTEGRATION  # ensure manual sourcing of this file in bashrc does not have any effect
@@ -59,6 +67,7 @@ _ksi_inject() {
 }
 _ksi_inject
 builtin unset -f _ksi_inject
+builtin unset KITTY_IS_CLONE_LAUNCH
 
 if [ "${BASH_VERSINFO:-0}" -lt 4 ]; then
     builtin unset KITTY_SHELL_INTEGRATION
@@ -268,6 +277,31 @@ _ksi_main() {
         builtin eval "$oldval"
         PROMPT_COMMAND+="; $pc"
     fi
+    if [ -n "${_ksi_pre_rc[is_clone_launch]}" ]; then
+        builtin export PATH="${_ksi_pre_rc[path]}"
+        builtin hash -r 2> /dev/null 1> /dev/null
+        if [ -n "${_ksi_pre_rc[python_venv]}" -a -r "${_ksi_pre_rc[python_venv]}/bin/activate" ]; then
+            builtin unset VIRTUAL_ENV
+            . "${_ksi_pre_rc[python_venv]}/bin/activate"
+        elif [ -n "${_ksi_pre_rc[conda_default_env]}" ] && builtin command -v conda >/dev/null 2>/dev/null && [ "${_ksi_pre_rc[conda_default_env]}" != "$CONDA_DEFAULT_ENV" ]; then
+            conda activate "${_ksi_pre_rc[conda_default_env]}"
+        fi
+        # Ensure PATH has no duplicate entries
+        if [ -n "$PATH" ]; then
+            builtin local old_PATH=$PATH:; PATH=
+            while [ -n "$old_PATH" ]; do
+                builtin local x
+                x=${old_PATH%%:*}
+                case $PATH: in
+                    *:"$x":*) ;;
+                    *) PATH=$PATH:$x;;
+                esac
+                old_PATH=${old_PATH#*:}
+            done
+            PATH=${PATH#:}
+        fi
+    fi
+    builtin unset _ksi_pre_rc
 }
 _ksi_main
 builtin unset -f _ksi_main
diff --git a/shell-integration/zsh/kitty-integration b/shell-integration/zsh/kitty-integration
index 6bf5393db..bd2650753 100644
--- a/shell-integration/zsh/kitty-integration
+++ b/shell-integration/zsh/kitty-integration
@@ -32,6 +32,16 @@ builtin emulate -L zsh -o no_warn_create_global -o no_aliases
 # 2: none of the above.
 builtin typeset -gi _ksi_state
 
+if [ -n "$KITTY_IS_CLONE_LAUNCH" ]; then
+    # store some vars before the rc files have a chance to change them
+    builtin typeset -gA _ksi_pre_rc
+    _ksi_pre_rc[path]="$PATH"
+    _ksi_pre_rc[conda_default_env]="$CONDA_DEFAULT_ENV"
+    _ksi_pre_rc[python_venv]="$VIRTUAL_ENV"
+    _ksi_pre_rc[is_clone_launch]="$KITTY_IS_CLONE_LAUNCH"
+    builtin unset KITTY_IS_CLONE_LAUNCH
+fi
+
 # Attempt to create a writable file descriptor to the TTY so that we can print
 # to the TTY later even when STDOUT is redirected. This code is fairly subtle.
 #
@@ -349,6 +359,20 @@ _ksi_deferred_init() {
         precmd_functions=(${precmd_functions:#_ksi_deferred_init})
     fi
 
+    if [ -n "${_ksi_pre_rc[is_clone_launch]}" ]; then
+        builtin export PATH="${_ksi_pre_rc[path]}"
+        builtin hash -r 2> /dev/null 1> /dev/null
+        if [ -n "${_ksi_pre_rc[python_venv]}" -a -r "${_ksi_pre_rc[python_venv]}/bin/activate" ]; then
+            builtin unset VIRTUAL_ENV
+            . "${_ksi_pre_rc[python_venv]}/bin/activate"
+        elif [[ -n "${_ksi_pre_rc[conda_default_env]}" && (( $+commands[conda] )) && "${_ksi_pre_rc[conda_default_env]}" != "$CONDA_DEFAULT_ENV" ]]; then
+            conda activate "${_ksi_pre_rc[conda_default_env]}"
+        fi
+        # Ensure PATH has no duplicate entries
+        typeset -U path
+    fi
+    builtin unset _ksi_pre_rc
+
     # Unfunction _ksi_deferred_init to save memory. Don't unfunction
     # kitty-integration though because decent public functions aren't supposed to
     # to unfunction themselves when invoked. Unfunctioning is done by calling code.